MANILA, Philippines – American trainer Freddie Roach and his prized fighter, Filipino 7-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, failed to agree on who they think will win on May 1 when “Sugar” Shane Mosley takes on Floyd “Money” Mayweather, Jr.
According to Joaquin Henson of The Philippine Star, Roach predicted that Mayweather (40-0, with 25 KOs) will remain undefeated as he will beat Mosley by decision.
“Shane’s my friend and I hope he wins but he has trouble with speed and movement and likes guys to come to him so it’s going to be difficult,” Roach said in a guest column on London’s Boxing News as quoted in The Philippine Star article.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, has been saying that Mosley would prevail over Mayweather.
“I’m for Shane Mosley,” the pound-for-pound king said in an article by Abac Cordero of The Philippine Star.
“He must do the right preparation. If he does, then he has a very good chance against Mayweather,” he said of the World Boxing Association (WBA) super welterweight champion who has 46 wins (with 39 KOs), 5 losses and 1 no contest.
FightFan.com earlier reported that Pacquiao said on the Krystal Hart Show that he thinks Mosley will win.
“I think Mayweather vs. Mosley will be a good fight,” he said ahead of his March 13 bout against Ghanaian Joshua Clottey.
Pacquiao, who was originally slated to fight the undefeated Mayweather, defeated Clottey via unanimous decision at the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. He retained his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight belt.
Mosley, for his part, vowed to crush Mayweather, adding that their fight will be better than the lopsided Pacquiao-Clottey clash.
'The better Mayweather'
Negotiations for the Pacquiao vs Mayweather blockbuster match crumbled after the former refused to give in to the latter’s demand for Olympic-style blood testing.
Pacquiao even filed a defamation complaint against Mayweather, his father Floyd Sr., uncle Roger, and Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar dela Hoya and Richard Schaefer after they alleged that he was taking performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs).
Roach reacted, “I get upset that some people can’t accept that Manny’s just a great fighter.”
The American trainer, for his part, said that Floyd Jr. has been respectful of him: “I like Floyd as a person ...out of the Mayweathers, he’s one of the better ones.”
But he noted that he will not allow Floyd Jr. to dictate his terms for the fight.
“I let him use my gym when he was doing ‘Dancing With The Stars’ before the Ricky Hatton fight and I’ve known him since he was a little kid. He’s not a bad guy. But the only way the fight with Manny is going to happen is we go by the commission drug-testing rules,” said Roach.
He also wished for “Pretty Boy Floyd” to stop making his own demands because “Floyd doesn’t realize that he’s killing his own sport.”
– With a report from The Philippine Star
as of 04/05/2010 10:34 PM
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Whether Mosley or Mayweather, I know this will excites the boxing fans knowing that it is Pacquiao who's also fighting either one of them.
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Monday, April 26, 2010
Saturday, April 24, 2010
From the Mayweathers to Adam Carolla, Too Much Racism in Boxing toward Filipinos
Over the last few months, there has been a disturbing trend in Boxing that is absolutely unacceptable. The trend is one of racial comments and discriminating remarks toward Manny Pacquiao and Filipinos as a whole. From the Mayweathers to Adam Carolla, Boxing has been littered with hate filled ignorance. Let’s examine further.
Adam Carolla
Just recently, American comedian and television host Adam Carolla made some horrible comments about Manny Pacquiao and Filipinos as a whole. Some say Carolla made these comments to try and be funny. Others say that he made them out of desperation to draw attention. I say he made these comments out of ignorance and should be held accountable for his actions. A public apology is necessary from Carolla.
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Floyd Mayweather Jr has also made some racial comments over the last few moths. Now, they may not be as vulgar as Carolla’s comments but they are just as discriminating and just as unnecessary.
“We got athletes that live in our own country that lie to the American citizens about taking certain enhancement drugs. Now, Manny Pacquiao is not even from this country and don’t even live in this country so imagine what he will tell the American people.” Floyd Mayweather Jr
“I’m happy for him. He’s a black American, and I’m a black American. I rooted him on. I wanted to see him win.” FMJ, HBO Face-Off with Max Kellerman
In addition to his comments, Floyd also discriminated against Filipino reporters during the opening press tour for Mayweather vs. Mosley. Here were Bob Arum’s comments on the situation:
"I don't care about all of this sh**. All that I care about right now is that at a press conference in my country, that people from another country were treated so horribly," said Arum, "and were descriminated against. That's what makes my blood boil, and thats's what makes me angry." Arum, Fanhouse
Floyd Sr and Roger Mayweather
Floyd Sr and Roger Mayweather have been relentless in their attacks on Manny Pacquiao. They call him a cheater and say he’s taking PEDs. But they also go on and on saying that Pacquiao is taking A-side Meth which Filipino soldiers used to take.
These comments are based on pure ignorance and have no merit. There’s no proof for any of these accusations, yet these two Mayweathers refuse to stop their hate speech.
Conclusion
Andrea Carrington Sacramento, CA “Why is there all of this racism in Boxing toward Manny and his country?”
I attribute a lot of these comments to ignorance, jealousy and hatred. But, whatever the reason, there’s no room in Boxing or in life for racism. I’m thoroughly disgusted with this mentality. People like Carolla and the Mayweathers should be held accountable for their actions and their comments. Carolla deserves to have a defamation law suit filed against him just like the Mayweathers.
As much as I despise these comments, it’s important not to respond to racism and hatred with racism and hatred. Demanding accountability and expressing disgust is one thing but expressing frustration with hatred is just as bad. Maturity is crucial when responding to racism.
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Let us judged Manny Pacquiao through his ring performance as a professional boxer. Let the fists of Pacquaio and Mayweather do the talking.
Thursday, April 22, 2010
Manny Pacquiao Still The Biggest Bet at Sportsbook.com
Remarkably, boxer Manny Pacquiao is still the top bet at Sportsbook.com. More action has been taken on Pacquiao then any other single bet offered this week including on Tiger Woods to win the 2010 Masters.
This is despite the fact that Pacquiao is not slated to actually fight anybody. The odds are being offered on Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and that fight is yet to be confirmed. Bets are "action" only if the two fighters meet before December 31, 2010.
The sparring match outside the ring continues and has been ongoing ever since Pacquiao refused to submit to Mayweather's Olympics style drug testing.
"Floyd's scared of my guy," said Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach. "I let him use my gym when he was doing ‘Dancing With The Stars' before the Ricky Hatton fight and I've known him since he was a little kid. He's not a bad guy. But the only way the fight with Manny is going to happen is we go by the commission drug-testing rules."
He also expressed doubt that a Pacquiao - Mayweather fight would ever see the time of day.
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I'm not surprised that Pacquaio get the biggest bet, just look at his latest performances.
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Relitigating, Part 2: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Joshua Clottey Pay-Per-View Numbers
There have been a couple subjects that generated heated debate in this space in the last week, to the point that I believe they require a bit of relitigating. First up was the philosophy of boxing undercards. Now: analyzing the pay-per-view buys for Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey.
Let me start by saying that in my original post, I think people might have misunderstood my overall point. As I said then, the 700,000 buys for Pacquiao-Clottey count as a "grand success" for any boxing pay-per-view. But, by the standard of what we've come to expect from Pacquiao, what kind of numbers boxing has been doing lately and what it meant for a possible Floyd Mayweather-Pacquiao fight I think it was a bit of a letdown at the same time. These two things are not incompatible. I think I explained both the good and ill of the numbers fairly well, so I'll largely let those arguments stand.
I am bothered slightly that a pair of boxing writers I like -- Scott Christ and Dan Rafael -- treated it like pure heresy that anyone could hold any opinion other than theirs. I don't assume they were talking about me, but Rafael's response to anyone who considered the numbers disappointing was that they were "insane," and Christ acted like anyone who thought that was someone who simply was incapable of rational discussion. For what it's worth, I think both their views about the numbers being a pure success were fair. I don't disagree with them all that much, in reality. My goal was to present a few counterpoints that I thought people were neglecting, while simultaneously acknowledging the reality that 700,000 is an impressive figure.
With that, I'll respond to some of the substance of remarks made here and elsewhere, and make a few additional points myself.
The numbers were strong for a recession. This is a point I admit I didn't take into account. So if you brought that up, thanks for doing so. In that context, the numbers are somewhat more impressive. That said...
The economic environment was somewhat offset by fewer PPVs these days and boxing's stronger overall position. Back when I was flipping out about the good numbers for Manny Pacquiao's 2009 PPVs and the numbers done by Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez, someone -- I think it was friend of the site roheblius -- made the strong point that the numbers were helped by boxing cutting down on its PPV schedule. I agreed then, and I re-make that point now, because I failed to do so in my original post. And I refer back to my post on this point: Boxing is in so much better shape these days, that 700,000 sounds a touch low by recent standards. ESPN, Good Morning America, The Washington Post -- everyone was covering this fight, and if you go back to 2008, none of those programs would have touched this fight with a million-foot pole. And they did it because boxing is more mainstream now than it was in 2008 and in many previous years, which is ultimately good news (something Christ and I agree on). Which means more casual fans tuning in, something I'll get to a little later.
Keep in mind: These were two non-Americans doing these numbers. Some people objected to me comparing Pacquiao's numbers against Clottey to Oscar De La Hoya's, or Mayweather's, or Mayweather's potential numbers with Shane Mosley, since all of those gents were American and neither Pacquiao nor Clottey hail from the U.S. of A. My answer to that is that Pacquiao already has proven he can be a pay-per-view draw despite not being American. I'm not going to count that as a handicap against him anymore. That handicap is gone. And Ricky Hatton wasn't American, and Miguel Cotto was Puerto Rican, and Pacquiao did better numbers with them than against Clottey. I understand why those fights did better numbers, but don't pretend that a lack of U.S. citizenship for Pacquiao and Clottey necessarily means he does lower numbers, because Pacquiao has proven he has overcome that factor.
There was no "24/7" preview series. That would have boosted the numbers, for sure. But HBO passed on it. Consider the reason: It probably would have been boring. Clottey isn't some amazing charismatic personality, and Pacquiao's personality has its limits, too. This is part and parcel of why the card's numbers weren't as high as they could be. These things cannot be separated. Pacquiao's marketing assets are thus: Good guy, interesting story, exciting fighter, fights the best. That sells tickets, obviously, since 51,000 people came to see Pacquiao-Clottey, and it moves PPV numbers, because 700,000 is a good number. But it means there are limits. If he doesn't fight the best, the numbers go down. If HBO prefers to do a 24/7 show for something else (which I'm about to touch upon) that they think will be more dramatic, then you can't really lean too much on "Pacquiao-Clottey would have done better with a '24/7' show." Pacquiao-Clottey isn't the kind of fight that would get a "24/7" show from the start. Mayweather-Clottey is, because of the next point.
There was no trash-talking or gimmicks for Pacquiao-Clottey the way there would be for a Mayweather bout, which explains why the numbers were/will be lower than X Mayweather fight were/will be. This relates back to the previous point. Mayweather moves PPV numbers in part because of his gimmick. He plays the jackass and he generates controversy and heat to his cards. It makes HBO want to put him in 24/7 shows. If you're saying Pacquiao's fight sold less because he didn't trash talk as much... well, that's on him. His stardom is contingent in part on being a good guy, and saying "you can't compare Pacquiao to Mayweather because Mayweather's a trash talker" is ignoring the fundamental appeal of both men. What's more, I don't remember any trash talking in any Pacquiao fight of late, from either man, and all those fights did much better than Pacquiao-Clottey. So why is it a factor all a sudden?
Pacquiao did better against Clottey than Mayweather did against the likes of Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. I reject this entirely. This doesn't come close to being an argument where each side of the analogy matches up. Mayweather fought Judah and Baldomir before he became a big star in 2007 following the Oscar De La Hoya bout. You can mark what kind of numbers Mayweather did pre-De La Hoya and post-De La Hoya, and it's worlds different. You can make the same kind of marker with De La Hoya for Pacquiao, too. If you want to compare how Pacquiao and Mayweather have done against one another, comparing pre-De La Hoya Mayweather to post-De La Hoya Pacquiao tells you nothing whatsoever.
There was a short window, two months, for promoting the fight. I'm sure this had some impact, and I failed to mention it in my original post. And it's a legitimate excuse for why Pacquiao-Clottey may have done worse numbers than otherwise. (In this formulation of the argument, a legitimate excuse translates to "it did well under the circumstances.") It's not like some of these other things where the excuses given are excuses that never were an issue before, or are excuses that the ignore the fundamental nature of Pacquiao's appeal and such. That said, I don't know quite how much impact it had. Does that much more important promotion get done in three months that doesn't get done in two? To Top Rank's credit, they got a lot of good promotional value out of having the fight at Cowboys Stadium at all, and there were the news conferences announcing the fight, and there was quite a publicity blitz in the first week. I think this is hard to quantify, but I grant it was a factor.
This fight reached casual fans. Rafael made this point. I don't doubt it. But it reached a lot less of them than Pacquiao did in previous fights. I'm not sure what the real significant value of point of this is, although it is somewhat useful. We already know Pacquiao reaches casual fans. I guess we now know he does even with less desirable match-ups, albeit to a significantly lesser degree, but that's a fairly secondary measure of a successful PPV in my opinion.
There was no fallout from Mayweather-Pacquiao not happening. Christ made this point. I do doubt it. Some of the people leaving comments on his own site said they refused to buy Pacquiao-Clottey out of protest for Mayweather-Pacquiao falling through. Unless he thinks they were all liars, or people who went back on their word, I don't see why he wouldn't acknowledge that those comments were representative at least some percentage of people were turned off of Pacquiao-Clottey because Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't happen.
But one needn't take the word of boxing fans vowing this or that. Top Rank's Bob Arum said himself that there was fallout from the demise of Mayweather-Pacquiao. Per Time magazine:
"To be frank, we had to overcome disappointment," he says. "People were looking forward to a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight."
I know Arum is tricky and one shouldn't put too much stock in what he says, but tell me why Arum says there is fallout from Mayweather-Pacquiao's demise if it isn't the case. I've tried to think of a reason, and I can't think of one.
The bad undercard didn't have anything to do with the numbers. I addressed this in Part 1. Short version: I think it did, at least in some small measure, because people I know and lots of people elsewhere said they wouldn't buy the fight because of the undercard, and there had to be more people like them who didn't happen to mention it in at a boxing website.
People expected better. This is my argument. When expectations aren't met, that's one definition of a "letdown." Arum expected more -- he thought Pacquiao-Clottey would do 1 million. Christ expected more -- he said he thought it would do in the 800,000-900,000 range, and that he wouldn't be surprised if it reached 1 million. than the Earlier in fight week, I expected more -- I thought it could be in the range of 900,000, but as the week went on and I saw the buzz was not there like it had been for other fights, I downgraded my expectations, and I still overestimated. There were people who were more accurate in their predictions (like SK), but the final number fell short for many of us.
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I don't think people want to see another fight with Clottey. I just loved seeing Pacquiao and Mayweather bout.
Let me start by saying that in my original post, I think people might have misunderstood my overall point. As I said then, the 700,000 buys for Pacquiao-Clottey count as a "grand success" for any boxing pay-per-view. But, by the standard of what we've come to expect from Pacquiao, what kind of numbers boxing has been doing lately and what it meant for a possible Floyd Mayweather-Pacquiao fight I think it was a bit of a letdown at the same time. These two things are not incompatible. I think I explained both the good and ill of the numbers fairly well, so I'll largely let those arguments stand.
I am bothered slightly that a pair of boxing writers I like -- Scott Christ and Dan Rafael -- treated it like pure heresy that anyone could hold any opinion other than theirs. I don't assume they were talking about me, but Rafael's response to anyone who considered the numbers disappointing was that they were "insane," and Christ acted like anyone who thought that was someone who simply was incapable of rational discussion. For what it's worth, I think both their views about the numbers being a pure success were fair. I don't disagree with them all that much, in reality. My goal was to present a few counterpoints that I thought people were neglecting, while simultaneously acknowledging the reality that 700,000 is an impressive figure.
With that, I'll respond to some of the substance of remarks made here and elsewhere, and make a few additional points myself.
The numbers were strong for a recession. This is a point I admit I didn't take into account. So if you brought that up, thanks for doing so. In that context, the numbers are somewhat more impressive. That said...
The economic environment was somewhat offset by fewer PPVs these days and boxing's stronger overall position. Back when I was flipping out about the good numbers for Manny Pacquiao's 2009 PPVs and the numbers done by Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez, someone -- I think it was friend of the site roheblius -- made the strong point that the numbers were helped by boxing cutting down on its PPV schedule. I agreed then, and I re-make that point now, because I failed to do so in my original post. And I refer back to my post on this point: Boxing is in so much better shape these days, that 700,000 sounds a touch low by recent standards. ESPN, Good Morning America, The Washington Post -- everyone was covering this fight, and if you go back to 2008, none of those programs would have touched this fight with a million-foot pole. And they did it because boxing is more mainstream now than it was in 2008 and in many previous years, which is ultimately good news (something Christ and I agree on). Which means more casual fans tuning in, something I'll get to a little later.
Keep in mind: These were two non-Americans doing these numbers. Some people objected to me comparing Pacquiao's numbers against Clottey to Oscar De La Hoya's, or Mayweather's, or Mayweather's potential numbers with Shane Mosley, since all of those gents were American and neither Pacquiao nor Clottey hail from the U.S. of A. My answer to that is that Pacquiao already has proven he can be a pay-per-view draw despite not being American. I'm not going to count that as a handicap against him anymore. That handicap is gone. And Ricky Hatton wasn't American, and Miguel Cotto was Puerto Rican, and Pacquiao did better numbers with them than against Clottey. I understand why those fights did better numbers, but don't pretend that a lack of U.S. citizenship for Pacquiao and Clottey necessarily means he does lower numbers, because Pacquiao has proven he has overcome that factor.
There was no "24/7" preview series. That would have boosted the numbers, for sure. But HBO passed on it. Consider the reason: It probably would have been boring. Clottey isn't some amazing charismatic personality, and Pacquiao's personality has its limits, too. This is part and parcel of why the card's numbers weren't as high as they could be. These things cannot be separated. Pacquiao's marketing assets are thus: Good guy, interesting story, exciting fighter, fights the best. That sells tickets, obviously, since 51,000 people came to see Pacquiao-Clottey, and it moves PPV numbers, because 700,000 is a good number. But it means there are limits. If he doesn't fight the best, the numbers go down. If HBO prefers to do a 24/7 show for something else (which I'm about to touch upon) that they think will be more dramatic, then you can't really lean too much on "Pacquiao-Clottey would have done better with a '24/7' show." Pacquiao-Clottey isn't the kind of fight that would get a "24/7" show from the start. Mayweather-Clottey is, because of the next point.
There was no trash-talking or gimmicks for Pacquiao-Clottey the way there would be for a Mayweather bout, which explains why the numbers were/will be lower than X Mayweather fight were/will be. This relates back to the previous point. Mayweather moves PPV numbers in part because of his gimmick. He plays the jackass and he generates controversy and heat to his cards. It makes HBO want to put him in 24/7 shows. If you're saying Pacquiao's fight sold less because he didn't trash talk as much... well, that's on him. His stardom is contingent in part on being a good guy, and saying "you can't compare Pacquiao to Mayweather because Mayweather's a trash talker" is ignoring the fundamental appeal of both men. What's more, I don't remember any trash talking in any Pacquiao fight of late, from either man, and all those fights did much better than Pacquiao-Clottey. So why is it a factor all a sudden?
Pacquiao did better against Clottey than Mayweather did against the likes of Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. I reject this entirely. This doesn't come close to being an argument where each side of the analogy matches up. Mayweather fought Judah and Baldomir before he became a big star in 2007 following the Oscar De La Hoya bout. You can mark what kind of numbers Mayweather did pre-De La Hoya and post-De La Hoya, and it's worlds different. You can make the same kind of marker with De La Hoya for Pacquiao, too. If you want to compare how Pacquiao and Mayweather have done against one another, comparing pre-De La Hoya Mayweather to post-De La Hoya Pacquiao tells you nothing whatsoever.
There was a short window, two months, for promoting the fight. I'm sure this had some impact, and I failed to mention it in my original post. And it's a legitimate excuse for why Pacquiao-Clottey may have done worse numbers than otherwise. (In this formulation of the argument, a legitimate excuse translates to "it did well under the circumstances.") It's not like some of these other things where the excuses given are excuses that never were an issue before, or are excuses that the ignore the fundamental nature of Pacquiao's appeal and such. That said, I don't know quite how much impact it had. Does that much more important promotion get done in three months that doesn't get done in two? To Top Rank's credit, they got a lot of good promotional value out of having the fight at Cowboys Stadium at all, and there were the news conferences announcing the fight, and there was quite a publicity blitz in the first week. I think this is hard to quantify, but I grant it was a factor.
This fight reached casual fans. Rafael made this point. I don't doubt it. But it reached a lot less of them than Pacquiao did in previous fights. I'm not sure what the real significant value of point of this is, although it is somewhat useful. We already know Pacquiao reaches casual fans. I guess we now know he does even with less desirable match-ups, albeit to a significantly lesser degree, but that's a fairly secondary measure of a successful PPV in my opinion.
There was no fallout from Mayweather-Pacquiao not happening. Christ made this point. I do doubt it. Some of the people leaving comments on his own site said they refused to buy Pacquiao-Clottey out of protest for Mayweather-Pacquiao falling through. Unless he thinks they were all liars, or people who went back on their word, I don't see why he wouldn't acknowledge that those comments were representative at least some percentage of people were turned off of Pacquiao-Clottey because Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't happen.
But one needn't take the word of boxing fans vowing this or that. Top Rank's Bob Arum said himself that there was fallout from the demise of Mayweather-Pacquiao. Per Time magazine:
"To be frank, we had to overcome disappointment," he says. "People were looking forward to a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight."
I know Arum is tricky and one shouldn't put too much stock in what he says, but tell me why Arum says there is fallout from Mayweather-Pacquiao's demise if it isn't the case. I've tried to think of a reason, and I can't think of one.
The bad undercard didn't have anything to do with the numbers. I addressed this in Part 1. Short version: I think it did, at least in some small measure, because people I know and lots of people elsewhere said they wouldn't buy the fight because of the undercard, and there had to be more people like them who didn't happen to mention it in at a boxing website.
People expected better. This is my argument. When expectations aren't met, that's one definition of a "letdown." Arum expected more -- he thought Pacquiao-Clottey would do 1 million. Christ expected more -- he said he thought it would do in the 800,000-900,000 range, and that he wouldn't be surprised if it reached 1 million. than the Earlier in fight week, I expected more -- I thought it could be in the range of 900,000, but as the week went on and I saw the buzz was not there like it had been for other fights, I downgraded my expectations, and I still overestimated. There were people who were more accurate in their predictions (like SK), but the final number fell short for many of us.
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I don't think people want to see another fight with Clottey. I just loved seeing Pacquiao and Mayweather bout.
Sunday, March 28, 2010
Will a Pacquiao vs. Mayweather Jr. Fight Ever Happen?
What would be the biggest draw in the boxing industry today? If you were to ask a boxing purest they would say they want to see a Pacquiao-Mayweather, Jr. bout. As a matter of fact it is the only thing boxing inner circles are talking about. If it were to take place the pay-per-view draws would be off the charts, which is exactly what the promoters salivate over. To quote Tom Cruise and Cuba Gooding Jr., "Show Me the MONEY!"
Manny Pacquiao's most recent bout vs. a relatively unknown, Joshua Clottey, drew a whopping 700,000 buys. If he can draw that versus a no-name like Clottey, just imagine what a highly anticipated matchup like Pacquiao vs. Mayweather Jr. would pull in.
However there are problems with putting together this bout, most notably Mayweather's camp wants Pacquiao to take a test proving he isn't on the juice. Unfortunately, Pacquiao's camp insists that he isn't and they refuse to take a test to proving that claim. Mayweather insists that there will never be a fight until a test is taken.
Second problem is Mayweather's take on the proceeds. His camp wants a 65-35 split. Problem is that if Pacquiao can pull 700k buys with Clottey, there is little bargaining power for Mayweather. This means that Manny is in the drivers seat and Mayweather must put up or shut up.
Let's hope to see both of these fighter's man up and square off. It will be a fight of the ages!
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I think many people were tired of Mayweather's bunch of alibis to fight Pacquiao. Just want to ensure his flawless undefeated record but still he must proved those records. Fight Pacquiao!
Sunday, December 27, 2009
It’s On: Mayweather, Pacquaio Camps Begin Talks
The posturing for a bigger slice of the purse has already started from Mayweather’s rep Schaefer, who made clear to Pugmire that he thinks his client is a bigger draw than Paqiuoa. HBO Sports President and boxing power broker Ross Greenburg also sides with Schaefer.
“How did Pacquiao-Marquez do versus Mayweather-Marquez? How did Pacquiao-Oscar do versus Floyd-Oscar?” Schaefer asked, well aware of the disparity.After last night’s spectacle though against Cotto, not everyone agrees with Schaefer and Greenburg.
Greenburg made it clear: “Floyd’s calling the shots for this fight to happen.”
Simon Ruvalcaba of FightHype.com writes today that, “With his win over Cotto, Pacquiao has now proven to be not only the more exciting and entertaining fighter, but also the bigger draw.”
No one disputes that Pacquiao is the more exciting fighter, but the hyper-payday that both will receive is predicated on Mayweather’s participation. Negotiations will be long and arduous, which has me thinking the fight will come off next summer at an outdoor venue, like Cowboys Stadium in Dallas, at the earliest.
Is there a possibility that Mayweather is bluffing? Yhat he has no intention of fighting Pacquiao and will use this negotiation as a ruse? Perhaps. At the very least, Mayweather’s unwillingness to fight Pacquiao in the past points to a negotiation that will be unconventional, with plenty of headfakes along the way.
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This Pacquiao-Mayweather fight will be the fight of the century.
Sunday, December 20, 2009
The Final Score: Manny versus Mayweather. Now, Please!
Manny Pacquiao enters the boxing arena. The crowd erupts. Even in the middle of Las Vegas, he hears the cheers from Filipinos many time zones away. Yet when Pacquiao files his certificate of candidacy, aiming for a congressional seat in Sarangani, he hears neither thunderous applause nor deafening roars. All he gets are curious looks and raised eyebrows. Oh sure the media frenzy never abandons him. Amidst the shower of flashbulbs, however, Pacman has to realize that politics in this country rarely inspires.
Pacquiao has every right to pursue his political ambitions. If his dream is to annex a chair in the Batasan Complex with his numerous title belts, let him chase that dream. It’s unfair to say that Pacquiao shouldn’t run for public office because he’s just an athlete. We sent Freddie Webb and Robert Jaworski to the Senate after all. It’s likewise unfair to prevent Pacquiao from joining the political derby because he can’t quote Hemingway. Eloquence isn’t a basis for integrity, you know.
There is joy, no matter how fleeting, in watching Pacquiao raise a title belt. It’s a sight that unites, albeit artificially and temporarily, a country. In contrast, Pacquiao shows off his accomplished COC and the nation shrugs its shoulders. It has little to do with Krista Ranillo. Perhaps Manny can blame every other corrupt politician roaming our 7,100 islands for the lukewarm response. Filipinos love their heroes in boxing gloves. They abhor thieves and alleged mass murderers in three-piece suits. A successful boxer is an honest fighter. A successful politician is…well. A well-fought bout, a well-played game are described as beautiful. A sporting event, league or personality suddenly turns ugly when politics rears its unwelcome head. Politics and sports mix as well as barong and maong. So when Pacquiao stubbornly insists on joining the election Cirque du Soleil, the dissimilarity between Manny the pugilist and Manny the aspiring public official is as jarring as Manny’s brutal left hook.
Thankfully Bob Arum is in town. Let’s get this Pacquiao-Mayweather super bout finalized and let sports distract us from the fatal flaws of some of our government leaders. Efren Peñaflorida and many others like him are doing what they can to make the Philippines get on its feet. Unfortunately, Peñaflorida can’t pack cinemas, arenas and barangay plazas the way Pacman can. I wish people would set aside one Sunday in a year for Peñaflorida, Tony Meloto et al. the way they do for any Pacquiao bout. But since Filipinos are more excited over heroes who punch opponents than champions who push kariton-classrooms, I’m willing to work from there.
In these extreme times, Pacquiao’s higher purpose isn’t to peddle Manny Pacquiao versus Roy Chiongbian. Pacquiao’s higher purpose is to divert attention from politics at the least, inspire national pride at the most. They say Pacquiao versus Mayweather might happen in March 2010. I say March should come sooner. This country needed Pacquiao versus Cotto after Ondoy-Pepeng. It needs Pacquiao versus Mayweather now more than ever after Maguindanao. – GMANews.TV
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I think Pacquiao has nothing to prove in boxing, but politics is simply a different world compared to the career path that made Manny Pacquiao known around the world.
Pacquiao has every right to pursue his political ambitions. If his dream is to annex a chair in the Batasan Complex with his numerous title belts, let him chase that dream. It’s unfair to say that Pacquiao shouldn’t run for public office because he’s just an athlete. We sent Freddie Webb and Robert Jaworski to the Senate after all. It’s likewise unfair to prevent Pacquiao from joining the political derby because he can’t quote Hemingway. Eloquence isn’t a basis for integrity, you know.
There is joy, no matter how fleeting, in watching Pacquiao raise a title belt. It’s a sight that unites, albeit artificially and temporarily, a country. In contrast, Pacquiao shows off his accomplished COC and the nation shrugs its shoulders. It has little to do with Krista Ranillo. Perhaps Manny can blame every other corrupt politician roaming our 7,100 islands for the lukewarm response. Filipinos love their heroes in boxing gloves. They abhor thieves and alleged mass murderers in three-piece suits. A successful boxer is an honest fighter. A successful politician is…well. A well-fought bout, a well-played game are described as beautiful. A sporting event, league or personality suddenly turns ugly when politics rears its unwelcome head. Politics and sports mix as well as barong and maong. So when Pacquiao stubbornly insists on joining the election Cirque du Soleil, the dissimilarity between Manny the pugilist and Manny the aspiring public official is as jarring as Manny’s brutal left hook.
Thankfully Bob Arum is in town. Let’s get this Pacquiao-Mayweather super bout finalized and let sports distract us from the fatal flaws of some of our government leaders. Efren Peñaflorida and many others like him are doing what they can to make the Philippines get on its feet. Unfortunately, Peñaflorida can’t pack cinemas, arenas and barangay plazas the way Pacman can. I wish people would set aside one Sunday in a year for Peñaflorida, Tony Meloto et al. the way they do for any Pacquiao bout. But since Filipinos are more excited over heroes who punch opponents than champions who push kariton-classrooms, I’m willing to work from there.
In these extreme times, Pacquiao’s higher purpose isn’t to peddle Manny Pacquiao versus Roy Chiongbian. Pacquiao’s higher purpose is to divert attention from politics at the least, inspire national pride at the most. They say Pacquiao versus Mayweather might happen in March 2010. I say March should come sooner. This country needed Pacquiao versus Cotto after Ondoy-Pepeng. It needs Pacquiao versus Mayweather now more than ever after Maguindanao. – GMANews.TV
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I think Pacquiao has nothing to prove in boxing, but politics is simply a different world compared to the career path that made Manny Pacquiao known around the world.
Thursday, December 17, 2009
Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
This was a news from linkmoko.blogspot.com
I feel that the upcoming fight of Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao could produce the perfect opportunity for the Pretty Boy to really prove himself. What fight out there would be as big in the boxing world as Mayweather vs. Pacquiao? I know Manuel Marquez might have something to say about that but I would prefer to see him fight Shane Mosley or stay on the lightweight division. What would be better for the sports especially on boxing than a previous pound for pound champion versus the current one? I also believe this would be the perfect temptation for Floyd to challenge Pacquiao. The money would be unbelievable as well as the chance to absolutely cement his legacy against the best fighter (apart from him) in the world. I know if Mayweather were to fight Pacquiao his detractors would say why not Margarito or Williams or probably Mosley? But after Manny Pacquiao had violently turned Miguel Cotto’s face into raw hamburger, the chant rose up from the stands of the MGM Grand Garden Arena:
“We want Floyd” boxing fans are really wanted to see the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight. I also think it would prove beyond any doubt that Pacquiao can handle fighting at the weight. This fight would be a genuine super fight between two all time greats in their prime. The super fight that could set box office records – Mayweather vs. Pacquiao it’s the dream bout between the two best pound-for-pound champions in the sport. I know Margarito is a relentless crowd pleasing favorite I personally like and respect him, but if Floyd fought him and out boxed him for 12 rounds (the only way Floyd could win) then it would be a boring fight. Cotto won't have the appeal he once did coming off a big loss so that wouldn't tempt Floyd. Williams has just moved to light-middle and I think Margarito is his main goal anyway. However, if a fight including Floyd and any one out of the big three in the welterweight division came off I would most like to see Mayweather vs. Williams (after Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight of course) I think Paul would give him the toughest fight out of the three. And if these two fights came off and Floyd was victorious I don't think anyone could deny him his position amongst the very greatest to ever grace the sport. The Mayweather vs. Pacquiao bout is already in negotiations both Top Rank and Golden Boy promotions are now finalizing some agreements, we will found out in the upcoming days if it is really official. I personally would love to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao just to finish who’s the best pound-for-pound really is. It makes sense on so many levels. So come on Manny and set up the greatest fight of our generation.
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This coming Paquiao-Mayweather fight would be as legendary just like the Frazier-Ali bout.
I feel that the upcoming fight of Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao could produce the perfect opportunity for the Pretty Boy to really prove himself. What fight out there would be as big in the boxing world as Mayweather vs. Pacquiao? I know Manuel Marquez might have something to say about that but I would prefer to see him fight Shane Mosley or stay on the lightweight division. What would be better for the sports especially on boxing than a previous pound for pound champion versus the current one? I also believe this would be the perfect temptation for Floyd to challenge Pacquiao. The money would be unbelievable as well as the chance to absolutely cement his legacy against the best fighter (apart from him) in the world. I know if Mayweather were to fight Pacquiao his detractors would say why not Margarito or Williams or probably Mosley? But after Manny Pacquiao had violently turned Miguel Cotto’s face into raw hamburger, the chant rose up from the stands of the MGM Grand Garden Arena:
“We want Floyd” boxing fans are really wanted to see the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight. I also think it would prove beyond any doubt that Pacquiao can handle fighting at the weight. This fight would be a genuine super fight between two all time greats in their prime. The super fight that could set box office records – Mayweather vs. Pacquiao it’s the dream bout between the two best pound-for-pound champions in the sport. I know Margarito is a relentless crowd pleasing favorite I personally like and respect him, but if Floyd fought him and out boxed him for 12 rounds (the only way Floyd could win) then it would be a boring fight. Cotto won't have the appeal he once did coming off a big loss so that wouldn't tempt Floyd. Williams has just moved to light-middle and I think Margarito is his main goal anyway. However, if a fight including Floyd and any one out of the big three in the welterweight division came off I would most like to see Mayweather vs. Williams (after Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight of course) I think Paul would give him the toughest fight out of the three. And if these two fights came off and Floyd was victorious I don't think anyone could deny him his position amongst the very greatest to ever grace the sport. The Mayweather vs. Pacquiao bout is already in negotiations both Top Rank and Golden Boy promotions are now finalizing some agreements, we will found out in the upcoming days if it is really official. I personally would love to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao just to finish who’s the best pound-for-pound really is. It makes sense on so many levels. So come on Manny and set up the greatest fight of our generation.
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This coming Paquiao-Mayweather fight would be as legendary just like the Frazier-Ali bout.
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
Pacquiao-Mayweather Fight Getting Closer
Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, was flying to the Philippines on Tuesday to discuss the boxer's possible megafight against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Arum said he also would discuss Pacquiao's participation in a congressional election in that country.
A source familiar with the process who declined to be identified because he's not authorized to speak about the negotiations said there are strong indications that Mayweather has agreed in principle to some contractual details.
A report by Yahoo Sports on Tuesday night said that a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight was nearly finalized for March 13 and that Mayweather had agreed to terms.
Contacted late Tuesday night, the lead matchmaker for Arum's promotion company, Top Rank, was more cautious about where negotiations stand.
"This trip was planned," matchmaker Bruce Trampler said. "Manny's got to fight in the first half of the year and Bob has to make the match so he was going to discuss that with Manny -- dates, opponents and Manny's thoughts on his political career."
"I'm going over there to figure it out," Arum told The Times just before departing. "Everything."
Arum said Tuesday that an opponent will run against Pacquiao in the May 10 Philippines election, which will force the boxer to campaign extensively in the weeks preceding the election. Arum and several others who are attempting to negotiate a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight would ideally like the bout to occur on May 1.
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WOW! This would one the greatest fight since the time of Ali.
Arum said he also would discuss Pacquiao's participation in a congressional election in that country.
A source familiar with the process who declined to be identified because he's not authorized to speak about the negotiations said there are strong indications that Mayweather has agreed in principle to some contractual details.
A report by Yahoo Sports on Tuesday night said that a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight was nearly finalized for March 13 and that Mayweather had agreed to terms.
Contacted late Tuesday night, the lead matchmaker for Arum's promotion company, Top Rank, was more cautious about where negotiations stand.
"This trip was planned," matchmaker Bruce Trampler said. "Manny's got to fight in the first half of the year and Bob has to make the match so he was going to discuss that with Manny -- dates, opponents and Manny's thoughts on his political career."
"I'm going over there to figure it out," Arum told The Times just before departing. "Everything."
Arum said Tuesday that an opponent will run against Pacquiao in the May 10 Philippines election, which will force the boxer to campaign extensively in the weeks preceding the election. Arum and several others who are attempting to negotiate a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight would ideally like the bout to occur on May 1.
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WOW! This would one the greatest fight since the time of Ali.
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